Green Left Weekly, Australia's radical weekly newspaper, published the following interview with Stan Goff, whom many Tacomans will recall from his talk here last Feb. 19. -- Goff's analysis of the Jan. 30 elections is interesting: "The real wild card here is Sadr, in my opinion. The elections have created a momentary political boost for the U.S. administration at home, but in the final analysis, it may be the biggest political setback it has suffered to date." -- With respect to the antiwar movement, he says: "Can the U.S. war drive be defeated? In many ways it is being defeated right now. This is the most important thing the left can grasp right now, in my opinion. Failure to grasp this fundamental fact could lead to that very fact being reversed because of demoralization and demobilization. We are having a material effect on U.S. power, and we cannot let up." ...
WE CAN WIN, AND WE WILL WIN By Stan Goff
Green Left Weekly February 9, 2005
http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2005/614/614p12.htm
A retired U.S. Army officer turned revolutionary socialist and author,
Stan Goff spent the majority of his military career in a field euphemistically
termed “Special Operations.” Beginning with Vietnam in 1970, Goff was deployed
to eight countries designated as “conflict areas,” including Grenada, El
Salvador, Colombia, Guatemala, Peru, the ill-fated U.S. mission to Mogadishu,
Somalia, in 1993, and Haiti, in 1994. Goff also trained troops in Panama,
Venezuela, Honduras, and Korea and taught military science at the U.S. Military
Academy at West Point, and tactics at the Army’s Jungle School in Panama. Goff
is now a member of the coordinating committee of Bring Them Home Now and has a
son serving in Iraq. Green Left Weekly’s Kiraz Janicke asked Goff about his
views on the U.S. war drive and the need to rebuild the global antiwar movement.
You've seen the iron fist of U.S. imperialism in action first-hand. What was
the most significant factor in your political transition?
Well, going blind on the road to Damascus makes a great drama, but that's not
how I personally got here from there. I don't think there was one outstanding
factor that resulted in my embrace of revolutionary politics, unless it was
being in the military itself, paradoxical as that might seem at first blush.
Any soldier with a high level of intellectual curiosity is a potential
political scientist. Once we become curious, our experience -- if one works in
combat arms as I did, and actually spends a great deal of time deployed abroad
-- does not incline us to a great deal of abstraction. An aversion to
abstraction makes a natural Marxist, I think. What Marxists call fetishization
and reification, soldiers call eyewash . . . or sometimes there's a
more scatological term.
All the characteristics that make a good soldier are also useful for
professional revolutionaries -- knowing the distinction between strategies,
campaigns, and tactics, for example; coordination and collectivity; discipline;
mission focus; taking calculated risks; a culture of criticism and
self-criticism. And there is a principle leaders learn early in the military --
even though many fail to follow it. That is, employ your unit in accordance with
its capability.
At bottom, though, what motivates anyone to embrace revolutionary politics is
an element of faith -- not the religious variety -- but faith in the ability of
human beings to participate in their own history, and in the possibility of a
future society that is both conscious and driven by human decency. There's a
soldiers’ fatalism there, but also that perennial human need to make meaning.
Can you tell me about the state of the antiwar movement in the U.S., what
are the forces holding it back, is it regrouping and reconsolidating?
One thing we have to understand about the United States is that the cultural
component of U.S. society plays a pivotal role in its politics. It is difficult
to overestimate the immense power of the U.S. bourgeoisie's ideological
apparatus, which is cultural through and through. The combination of consumer
culture, which is a direct reflection of our imperial privilege in the current
international division of economic labor, and the technical sophistication and
ubiquitous reach of culture-disseminating media, have utterly pacified U.S.
society. Gramsci would gasp at the efficacy of it, and Goebbels would blush with
humility.
Some people would like to underplay the significance of television as a
medium, but we cannot ignore the fact that average U.S. residents sit gazing
into this electromagnetic data stream for an average of 70 full 24-hour days
each year -- that's almost 20% of our lives, or if you want to assess this as a
percentage of our waking lives, it becomes almost 29%.
Two-hundred-and-forty-eight million of us are tuned in, and this is not
content-neutral information to which we are exposing ourselves. Those who say
“Lighten up, we are just relaxing” are deluding themselves that they are left
unaffected by the content and form of television. We pay an average of US$255
per person (not family) to television services each year, maintain 2.4 TVs per
household, where $40-$45 billion is paid by advertisers to find their way into
our living rooms and, as we become increasingly passive and flabby, our
bedrooms.
This is the ideological reach that has been achieved by the U.S. bourgeoisie.
Combine that with our comparative, on average, affluence -- that imperial
privilege -- and our still-powerful post-McCarthy anti-communism, and you have
an extremely low level of class struggle here.
This isolates the left into theoretically conformed groupings for lack of a
mass movement that can focus our collective political practice. The war has to
some degree given us an opportunity to break out of this sectarian limbo, but
it's going to require the divestment of a lot of religion-like fealty to old
lines. There can be no regroupment of the left if everyone on the left continues
to insist on their respective forms of intellectual conformity. I don't care how
many Stalins or Trotskys or Maos can fit on the head of a pin. What are the
conditions now? What can we do now?
We still have some work to do in overcoming the homophobia of the left, to
deal with the still stubborn and unacknowledged sexism on the left, and in the
U.S. our failure to grasp the national dimension of so-called racism. And we
need to critique our past devotion to industrial development which ecological
reality is showing us now to be a catastrophic historical dead-end.
With the war concentrating our efforts, we need to connect the war to the
existing mass movements on all these issues.
Can you give me an idea of the level of opposition to Bush's war drive
within the U.S. armed forces?
That's difficult to do for at least two reasons -- first, because there is
just no way of getting some kind of representative sample for a number of
demographic and technical reasons, and second, because there are so many
different dimensions of “opposition.”
What we can see are tendencies. In the military organizing that I have been
involved with, we are seeing the institutional breakdown of the military via the
increasing numbers of dissenters, deserters and refusers. We are connected with
various outreach and counselling efforts, so this is something we can measure.
And the numbers are climbing, fast.
The longer this goes on, the worse it will be, and that's why there are
cracks developing inside the Pentagon. There are generals who are both opposed
to this war and devoted to the military.
Any comments on the US elections in Iraq? And any comments on the Iraqi
resistance?
It appears that -- as has been the case from the very beginning -- the U.S.
has once again wildly underestimated the slum-cleric Moqtada al Sadr, who is
possibly the most popular -- as opposed to “revered” in the case of Grand
Ayatollah Ali Sistani --, the most popular Shia cleric in the country. With his
amateur militias . . . there were very few former military among them,
the reason their casualties were so horrific . . . but with them he
shifted the political balance of power during last year's Shia rebellion and
forced Sistani to acknowledge Sadr's influence.
Since the ceasefire, which humiliated the U.S. which had sworn to arrest or
kill Sadr, Sadr has used his increased public stature to consolidate political
control over vast areas of Baghdad, turning them effectively into U.S. military
no-go areas.
Sadr has been very coy on the election question, probably to gauge the degree
of influence Sistani would actually exercise over both the process and the
outcome of that election.
The U.S. will have to somehow intervene to ensure Prime Minister Iyad
Allawi's continued influence over the Iraqi National Assembly, because
Washington has not the least intention of allowing an Iraqi political body they
prop up to orient toward Iran.
Bush's handlers must realize by now that they are on the cusp of winning the
Iran-Iraq War, and this is definitely not the desired outcome for them. Cheney's
clique is making noise like they want to attack Iran, even though they have not
the least capacity for such an action and it would be political suicide.
Sadr -- as the Shia cleric who made the most direct overtures to Sunni
guerrilla forces for a national united front -- is now positioned to take the
most significant leadership role in the wake of the election, the next time the
Shias rebel . . . which will be when the afterglow fades and the U.S.
is forced to expose its true agenda.
The armed resistance in the north continues to grow apace, and the election
has not changed that one whit. But the real wild card here is Sadr, in my
opinion.
The elections have created a momentary political boost for the U.S.
administration at home, but in the final analysis, it may be the biggest
political setback it has suffered to date. And war is purely political at the
end of the road.
What do you think is the significance of conferences like the Asia Pacific
International Solidarity Conference for rebuilding and consolidating the global
anti-war movement?
Sharing of information, impressions and assessments of our strategies is
always critical. I don't think we need to see revolutionary internationalism
either as some instrumental Comintern-like control to coordinate a single
strategy or in the more utopian and reality-challenged terms of a mighty and
spontaneous upwave of proletarian unity.
Even more significantly than merely sharing, which is in itself very
important, it gives revolutionaries an opportunity to have the kinds of
conversations we can not have on the Internet, where we can gain the deeper
perspective that comes from face-to-face, secure communication.
We have to see this as more than an antiwar movement. This needs to be seen
for its greatest potential, its historic potential, and that is to decisively
break U.S. global power and hegemony.
We in the U.S. have the responsibility to damage that power from inside, but
the decisive blows to the current world system will come from outside the U.S.,
and those blows -- plural -- will come in many forms. One of them is certainly
political Islam, the political content of which the left ignores at its peril,
but it will also come in many other local and regional forms.
Given that the U.S. is engaged in an energy war to rescue itself from the law
of value, energy producers and nations on strategic sea-lanes are key in this,
and not just in Southwest Asia. Indonesia, China, Venezuela, Colombia, Nigeria,
the Philippines, even little Haiti . . . these are crucial. These struggles are
multiform and may not conform to metropolitan leftist ideas about what is
appropriate, or to schemas of Marxism-Leninism. They might involve women
undressing to shame oil foremen in Nigeria, or Bolivarian circles, or indigenous
environmental justice campaigns, or coca growers blocking roads.
Anything that weakens the local compradors' hold on political power is a plus
in our column, because these are the surrogates for U.S. power projection.
If the conference is simply sharing our theses, we will have lost an
opportunity. But if we go back to our own comrades with a new perspective for
our own struggles and a renewed revolutionary faith, and even with some nascent
partnerships, then it will succeed. Can the U.S. war drive be defeated?
In many ways it is being defeated right now. This is the most important thing
the left can grasp right now, in my opinion. Failure to grasp this fundamental
fact could lead to that very fact being reversed because of demoralization and
demobilization. We are having a material effect on U.S. power, and we cannot let
up.
The most unfortunate result of the last 20 years of counter-revolution has
been the left's loss of its combat edge, if you'll forgive the military
language.
Many people have taken to whining and putting on hair shirts. But when the
conditions are not propitious -- which they were not during the disintegration
and defeat of first epoch communism -- we have to recognize that these are the
conditions. By the same token, when the conditions are favourable for
intervention from the left, we have to switch out emotional gears, and go back
into overdrive.
A deep analysis of the current conjuncture, some of us have been arguing,
shows a decaying U.S. imperium that is increasingly fragile and increasingly
dependent on the two remaining pillars of its power -- monetary hegemony and its
immense and immensely expensive military.
Part of that military supremacy is real -- the lethal high technology and
capacity to project it worldwide. But part of that is mystique, the belief
shared even by many on the left that this military is invincible. Iraq is
proving that it is not. The United States is objectively losing the war in Iraq,
and it is caught in a terrible dilemma. It can not win militarily, but it can
not quit politically. So it is paying a price, economically and politically.
Our job globally, I think, is to ensure that this price is as high as
possible -- both politically and economically. Resistance to neoliberalism in
any and all forms right now, rebellion against the loan-sharking of the United
States, is very important in this regard.
Popular movements in the global South must push hard for national default on
external debts, for example. Boycotting and shutting down U.S. companies in
these countries is essential. If the movement needs a slogan, I've got one: Make
them pay.
Here in the U.S., we will continue to put pressure on our craven elected
officials at some level, through escalating tactics including disobedience and
even social disruption. But the linchpin of the campaign I work with is to
hollow out to the extent possible the ideological support for the war inside the
military, as part of the larger campaign to show people in the U.S. why this war
is being waged at their expense, and at the expense of their children.
We can win, and we will win. If we don't stop, we will defeat not just the
war drive, but imperialism itself. Have faith.
[Stan Goff will be speaking in Sydney at the Asia Pacific International
Solidarity Conference at Ashfield Boys High School on March 24 at 7:00 p.m., for
more information, visit www.apsc.net.au.] |